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Post by Guest on Feb 8, 2016 23:01:12 GMT 10
How do the under 15 state selections announced today look? Looks pretty good I would think. Some young up and comers have shone and the process seems to have been very fair and transparent. HV should be congratulated.
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Post by Watered down on Feb 12, 2016 9:43:17 GMT 10
So who registered ? 140 x $200 = $28000 Who else thinks , like the original qty for Academy that the max number of registrations will be exceeded , there needs to be a minimum standard and without sounding elitist jsc / jcc is not quite up to a National competition . Be upfront HV , publicise the number of positions in State Teams that are actually available , don't treat us like fools . Unfair to take peoples money and provide false hope . To those that will be attending , I hope you get out of it what you are expecting , be demanding , work hard and reap the benefits. Love the idea around this program , however if you dont get the numbers you hoped for HV dont then open it up to anyone , regardless of age from Academy , if the purpose is to prepare for U18 national level , dont let U13 and U15 players participate , not really fair on those who thought they would be training with players of a certain standard , size , age and strength . Loss of credibility .
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Post by Wellers on Feb 12, 2016 10:23:10 GMT 10
So who registered ? 140 x $200 = $28000 Who else thinks , like the original qty for Academy that the max number of registrations will be exceeded , there needs to be a minimum standard and without sounding elitist jsc / jcc is not quite up to a National competition . Be upfront HV , publicise the number of positions in State Teams that are actually available , don't treat us like fools . Unfair to take peoples money and provide false hope . To those that will be attending , I hope you get out of it what you are expecting , be demanding , work hard and reap the benefits. Love the idea around this program , however if you dont get the numbers you hoped for HV dont then open it up to anyone , regardless of age from Academy , if the purpose is to prepare for U18 national level , dont let U13 and U15 players participate , not really fair on those who thought they would be training with players of a certain standard , size , age and strength . Loss of credibility . There shouldn't be anyone there that hasn't nominated for 18s, are you suggesting there is going to be and its really only a money maker?
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Post by Guest on Sept 21, 2016 17:14:01 GMT 10
Hang on a minute...... Did I just make my kid endure two days of U15 Draft Camp - and there are no academy places available to be allocated?? We changed our holiday plans to accommodate these days, and the Draft camp was not cheap. Is this a money making exercise?
Can someone please enlighten me re the situation?
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Post by Guest on Sept 21, 2016 18:34:25 GMT 10
There should be somewhere between 10 and 15 places I suspect
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Post by Standard. on Sept 21, 2016 18:40:49 GMT 10
Hang on a minute...... Did I just make my kid endure two days of U15 Draft Camp - and there are no academy places available to be allocated?? We changed our holiday plans to accommodate these days, and the Draft camp was not cheap. Is this a money making exercise? Can someone please enlighten me re the situation? Welcome to Hockey in Victoria, Are you new to the state?
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Post by Breeze Camp Commentator on Sept 22, 2016 11:26:32 GMT 10
Hang on a minute...... Did I just make my kid endure two days of U15 Draft Camp - and there are no academy places available to be allocated?? We changed our holiday plans to accommodate these days, and the Draft camp was not cheap. Is this a money making exercise? Can someone please enlighten me re the situation? If "you" made your kid endure two days of draft camp, then I suspect you are living vicariously through your kid. If however your kid wanted to do draft camp and have a shot of making the HV high performance academy, then that is another story. If he is good enough, one suspects he will get a spot. If he didn't make it, then he would have received two fantastic days of coaching and development.
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Post by LittleFinger on Sept 22, 2016 13:48:05 GMT 10
The tone of the email above is absolutely priceless. The questions as to the worthwhileness of the Draft Camps and the convoluted High Performance pathway are well aired on this forum, and people are right to question a program that from the outside appears to be a money making process by HV. What is less clear, however, is whether it is a win-win program in that the coaching received is genuinely beneficial to the participants, and whether this affects their pathway into the high performance program.
Breeze Camp Commentator, I suggest that you come down from your high horse, as you are clearly oxygen deprived up there.
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Post by Breeze Camp Commentator on Sept 22, 2016 14:24:56 GMT 10
The tone of the email above is absolutely priceless. The questions as to the worthwhileness of the Draft Camps and the convoluted High Performance pathway are well aired on this forum, and people are right to question a program that from the outside appears to be a money making process by HV. What is less clear, however, is whether it is a win-win program in that the coaching received is genuinely beneficial to the participants, and whether this affects their pathway into the high performance program. Breeze Camp Commentator, I suggest that you come down from your high horse, as you are clearly oxygen deprived up there. Littlefinger, you seem to enjoy stirring the pot. Yes, these programs cost money and coaches should be compensated for the work they do. Unfortunately, your views are symptomatic of the millennial mindset that is so apparent in society today demanding middle class welfare and mediocrity. So, compare other sports, what would two days of sports coaching and development cost? What would two days of child minding cost? Haters always going to be haters. And yes, you thieve more than your fair share of O2 from this forum.
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Post by LittleFinger on Sept 22, 2016 17:23:11 GMT 10
Perhaps this is the case, however I like to think I breath life into what is otherwise a forum filled with HV haters and parents living their lives through their kids. One thing I do not go about the forum abusing those who have a differing viewpoint to that of my own. There was nothing whatsoever wrong with the comment by "Guest" that you decided to arrogantly put-down. Had you bothered to read my comment, you would see that it is more pointing out that there are two sides to every story, and the HP program run by HV is certainly generating a lot of debate. This can only be healthy, as it clearly shows HV where they need to channel their communications to gather support. (a quick FYI, that your argument justifying the quality of the camps and coaching on offer was far stronger before you compared it to child minding. This certainly is not the image that HV would like to have projected of their draft camp). Littlefinger, you seem to enjoy stirring the pot. Yes, these programs cost money and coaches should be compensated for the work they do. Unfortunately, your views are symptomatic of the millennial mindset that is so apparent in society today demanding middle class welfare and mediocrity. So, compare other sports, what would two days of sports coaching and development cost? What would two days of child minding cost? Haters always going to be haters. And yes, you thieve more than your fair share of O2 from this forum.
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Post by Indoor on Sept 22, 2016 18:05:02 GMT 10
Nomination and trial link up on HV , local Indoor comps are on a Thursday night for some U18 , some on a Monday night , however the 2 trials for U18 are both being held on Thursday nights , teams in the comp at VU will surely be without a number of kids and will prob have to forfeit .
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Post by Disappointed parent on Sept 22, 2016 18:29:25 GMT 10
Can I chime in here. I stayed to watch my child at Draft Camp because he was a little nervous. My overall impression was that they had young coaches who, on the whole, looked bored (especially by the second day), and struggled to control aberrant behaviours. Not sure about the theory of 'two fantastic days of coaching and development' we get better a club level - but those sessions don't get you identified for HV academy. i'm with 'Guest' - it appears that there were minimal spots available. A bit more transperancy would have been appreciated. Hang on a minute...... Did I just make my kid endure two days of U15 Draft Camp - and there are no academy places available to be allocated?? We changed our holiday plans to accommodate these days, and the Draft camp was not cheap. Is this a money making exercise? Can someone please enlighten me re the situation? If "you" made your kid endure two days of draft camp, then I suspect you are living vicariously through your kid. If however your kid wanted to do draft camp and have a shot of making the HV high performance academy, then that is another story. If he is good enough, one suspects he will get a spot. If he didn't make it, then he would have received two fantastic days of coaching and development.
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Post by Guest on Sept 22, 2016 18:52:09 GMT 10
Doing the math. A. How many kids in the academy at each age level ie U13, U15 and U18? B. Now work out how many kids currently getting automatic entry (assumes some U18s may no longer qualify due to moving up in age)? C. Deduct B from A at each age level. At the end of the day its a 2 day trial.
Perhaps this is the case, however I like to think I breath life into what is otherwise a forum filled with HV haters and parents living their lives through their kids. One thing I do not go about the forum abusing those who have a differing viewpoint to that of my own. There was nothing whatsoever wrong with the comment by "Guest" that you decided to arrogantly put-down. Had you bothered to read my comment, you would see that it is more pointing out that there are two sides to every story, and the HP program run by HV is certainly generating a lot of debate. This can only be healthy, as it clearly shows HV where they need to channel their communications to gather support. (a quick FYI, that your argument justifying the quality of the camps and coaching on offer was far stronger before you compared it to child minding. This certainly is not the image that HV would like to have projected of their draft camp). Littlefinger, you seem to enjoy stirring the pot. Yes, these programs cost money and coaches should be compensated for the work they do. Unfortunately, your views are symptomatic of the millennial mindset that is so apparent in society today demanding middle class welfare and mediocrity. So, compare other sports, what would two days of sports coaching and development cost? What would two days of child minding cost? Haters always going to be haters. And yes, you thieve more than your fair share of O2 from this forum.
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Post by guest on Sept 22, 2016 18:55:30 GMT 10
The coaches I saw were pretty impressive coaches.
Perhaps some really young kids were not up to concentrating for two days?
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Post by Guest on Sept 22, 2016 19:32:24 GMT 10
You would think then the coaches would know who the kids are with the skills and potential after 2 days? If your kid misses out, they get a feedback report which they can take away and work on their respective skills.
My kid missed out on state and zone team selections. He just kept working and cracked academy via draft camp and now state teams. It's about hard work and continuing to work hard and develop to keep your spot.
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Post by Thanks on Sept 24, 2016 7:05:38 GMT 10
'Coaches looked disinterested' maybe that's because they had spend two 6 hour days with kids, many of whom looked very young and has little skill. I'm not quite sure where you saw this also, I also stayed to watch as my child is young, and I've realised now I should never have put him in, not only young but also he didn't know why he was there. Big thank you to the coaches, inspired him to work hard, we will be putting him in again next year when he is a bit older, even if he doesn't make it this year. He still had fun and made some new friends, is this not what hockey is supposed to be about?
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Post by guest on Sept 30, 2016 15:14:53 GMT 10
So for all those that were unhappy about draft camp, have Hockey Vic announced the academy list. Is all OK now?
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Post by Guest on Oct 14, 2016 11:24:53 GMT 10
Is HV doing the u17 devel team like last year that went to QLd?
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Post by yes on Oct 14, 2016 12:59:36 GMT 10
Is HV doing the u17 devel team like last year that went to QLd? Group left today for a weekend trip , Mt Gambier , Not sure who they are playing against .
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Post by ?? on Oct 14, 2016 13:24:39 GMT 10
Is HV doing the u17 devel team like last year that went to QLd? Group left today for a weekend trip , Mt Gambier , Not sure who they are playing against . No promotion or info about it this like there was last year.......how were players selected?
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